By the Non-Conference Numbers 2004-2008

by cgb on Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:30 am

The SEC is king cotton, again. It must be all that speed. The Big 12 is a close second, but after that it’s not even close. I am very surprised to see the Pac-10 last among the BCS conferences (which includes their very strong bowl record). One explanation for their record being so abysmal is their round-robin schedule. Since they play 9 conference games they only played 2 and then 3 non-conference teams. In most cases the teams they played were formidable 1a opponents and not 1aa cupcakes. For all the crap the ACC takes it narrowly edges out the Big Ten for third in total non-conference wins. That doesn’t include BC’s 5-1 non-conference record in 2004 (Big East). However, the Big Ten posts a better winning percentage 69% to 66%.

One thing missing are the non-conference wins/losses versus just BCS conference teams. But other than the Pac-10 the BCS conferences as a whole schedule (and get wins) against the same number of 1aa schools. Also BCS opponent doesn’t necessarily mean good opponent, ie Utah (non-BCS) and Iowa State (BCS).

Conference Non-Conference Wins Non-Conference Losses Win %
SEC 195 59 78%
Big 12 187 67 74%
ACC 168 86 66%
Big Ten 164 73 69%
Big East 146 67 69%
Pac-10 118 64 65%
MWC 104 85 55%
C-USA 96 145 40%
Ind 88 94 48%
WAC 87 110 44%
MAC 80 175 31%
Sun Belt 49 132 27%

Full breakout by year after the jump.

Year Conference Non-Conference Wins Non-Conference Losses
2008 ACC 41 17
2008 Big 12 42 13
2008 Big East 33 14
2008 Big Ten 33 18
2008 C-USA 22 32
2008 Ind 16 18
2008 MAC 22 35
2008 MWC 28 13
2008 Pac-10 19 17
2008 SEC 43 13
2008 Sun Belt 12 25
2008 WAC 19 23
2007 ACC 35 21
2007 Big 12 41 15
2007 Big East 32 13
2007 Big Ten 38 14
2007 C-USA 18 36
2007 Ind 12 21
2007 MAC 17 44
2007 MWC 24 17
2007 Pac-10 25 12
2007 SEC 47 10
2007 Sun Belt 10 26
2007 WAC 18 23
2006 ACC 33 23
2006 Big 12 36 20
2006 Big East 37 8
2006 Big Ten 35 17
2006 C-USA 21 32
2006 Ind 19 23
2006 MAC 15 37
2006 MWC 19 21
2006 Pac-10 25 12
2006 SEC 47 10
2006 Sun Belt 11 26
2006 WAC 21 21
2005 ACC 32 12
2005 Big 12 36 8
2005 Big East 20 16
2005 Big Ten 31 10
2005 C-USA 18 24
2005 Ind 18 22
2005 MAC 14 24
2005 MWC 15 17
2005 Pac-10 26 10
2005 SEC 30 12
2005 Sun Belt 4 25
2005 WAC 10 24
2004 ACC 27 13
2004 Big 12 32 11
2004 Big East 24 16
2004 Big Ten 27 14
2004 C-USA 17 21
2004 Ind 23 10
2004 MAC 12 35
2004 MWC 18 17
2004 Pac-10 23 13
2004 SEC 28 14
2004 Sun Belt 12 30
2004 WAC 19 19
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6 Responses to “By the Non-Conference Numbers 2004-2008”

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  1. 1Simon on Aug 4, 2009 at 8:51 am:

    To the Pac 10’s credit they typically man up the most and play good teams. Additionally they schedule less out of conference games then the rest of the conferences.

    I used to hate the Pac 10, but they do it right.

  2. 2JoseOle on Aug 5, 2009 at 7:53 am:

    Nice way to do straight wins/losses without even taking into consideration what conferences have more teams and play more out of conference games. The Big East’s percentage is much better than the ACC, and if you look the ACC may have more wins but they’ve lost over half the games. Man did you take stats ever?

  3. 3cgb on Aug 5, 2009 at 8:27 am:

    @JoseOle The Big East’s winning percentage is 3 points better than the ACCs. That isn’t much better. Did you even consider that since 2006 the Big East has played more non-conference games per team (5) than any other conference?

  4. 4Matt on Aug 5, 2009 at 11:51 am:

    CGB — got pointed over here by TBL. Nice summary. Have you ever looked at the OOC Reports from the (sadly now defunct) ACC Football Report?

    http://accfootballreport.blogspot.com/search/label/Out%20of%20Conference%20Records

    He considers strength of opponents and shows that the SEC and B12 fatten up on crummy OOC schools. It would be nice if someone else (hint) took up the waving of this flag. Note that I am not implying that I think the ACC is better outright than the SEC, but I do think we should get a bit more respect thatn we do.

    Wahoowa, my Hokie friend.

    Matt
    UVA ‘93

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